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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page with a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area and then promoted into the Queue. To update this page, purge it.

Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
December 18
December 24 1 1
December 25 1
December 30 1
January 1 1 1
January 2 1 1
January 6 1
January 7 1 1
January 10 1
January 11 1
January 12 1 1
January 13 2 1
January 14 3 2
January 15 3 2
January 16 1 1
January 20 1 1
January 21 2 1
January 22 1
January 23 3
January 24 1
January 25 2 2
January 26 6 2
January 27 5 2
January 28 3
January 29 3 2
January 31 5 3
February 1 4 4
February 2 4 1
February 3 5 1
February 4 3 1
February 5 8 5
February 6 9 2
February 7 7 2
February 8 5 1
February 9 7
February 10 7 7
February 11 7 5
February 12 8 3
February 13 6 3
February 14 9 3
February 15 4 1
February 16 5 1
February 17 10 4
February 18 11 3
February 19 6 2
February 20 11 2
February 21 5 1
February 22 13 2
February 23 13 1
February 24 10 4
February 25 11 1
February 26 15 3
February 27 7 1
February 28 5 1
February 29 13 1
March 1 11
March 2 12 2
Total 302 92
Last updated 10:34, 3 March 2024 UTC
Current time is 21:43, 3 March 2024 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing. Further information can be found at the supplementary guidelines.

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Frequently asked questions

How do I write an interesting hook?

Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.

When will my nomination be reviewed?

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first, it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions below).

Where is my hook?

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Instructions for reviewers

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING  :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.
  • After the nomination is approved, a bot will automatically list the nomination page on Template talk:Did you know/Approved.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Advanced procedures

How to promote an accepted hook

At-a-glance instructions on how to promote an approved hook to a prep area
Check list for nomination review completeness
  1. Select a hook from the approved nominations page that has one of these ticks at the bottom post: .
  2. Check to make sure basic review requirements were completed.
    • Any outstanding issue following needs to be addressed before promoting.
  3. Check the article history for any substantive changes since it was nominated or reviewed.
  4. Images for the lead slot must be freely licensed. Fair-use images are not permitted. Images loaded on Commons that appear on the Main Page are automatically protected by KrinkleBot.
  5. Hook must be stated in both the article and source (which must be cited at the end of the article sentence where stated).
  6. Hook should make sense grammatically.
  7. Try to vary subject matters within each prep area.
  8. Try to select a funny, quirky or otherwise upbeat hook for the last or bottom hook in the set.
Steps to add a hook to prep
  • In one tab, open the nomination page of the hook you want to promote.
  • In a second tab, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.

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  1. For hooks held for specific dates, refer to "Local update times" section on DYK Queue.
    • Completed Prep area number sets will be promoted by an administrator to corresponding Queue number.
  2. Copy and paste the hook into a chosen slot.
    • Make sure there's a space between ... and that, and a ? at the end.
    • Check that there's a bold link to the article.
  3. If it's the lead (first) hook, paste the image where indicated at the top of the template.
  4. Copy and paste ALL the credit information (the {{DYKmake}} and {{DYKnom}} templates) at the bottom
  5. Check your work in the prep's Preview mode.
    • At the bottom under "Credits", to the right of each article should have the link "View nom subpage" ; if not, a subpage parameter will need to be added to the DYKmake.
  6. Save the Prep page.
Closing the DYK nomination page
  1. At the upper left
    • Change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • Change |passed= to |passed=yes
  2. At the bottom
    • Just above the line containing

      }}<!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->

      insert a new, separate line containing one of the following:
      To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
      To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
      To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
      To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
      To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
      To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
      To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]
    • Also paste the same thing into the edit summary.
  3. Check in Preview mode. Make sure everything is against a pale blue background (nothing outside) and there are no stray characters, like }}, at the top or bottom.
  4. Save.

For more information, please see T:TDYK#How to promote an accepted hook.

Handy copy sources:

  • To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]

How to remove a rejected hook

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Template talk Did you know

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on December 25

Zoé Clauzure, Cœur (song)

Created by Moscow Connection (talk). Self-nominated at 23:00, 1 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Zoé Clauzure; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  •   Full review needed now that QPQs have been provided. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:12, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • At 1382 bytes, Cœur (song) is too short for the DYK requirement. Moscow Connection, would you prefer to put the nomination on hold until it's expanded or to withdraw it and go with just the Clauzure article? --Paul_012 (talk) 15:15, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Note that the IPA template in the lede causes unexpected (incorrect) results from DYK check in the form of about 200 extra characters to its count; the "Cœur" article is indeed short of the 1500 prose characters required and will need to be expanded further. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:33, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   While we're waiting, I'll go ahead and review Zoé Clauzure, which can run alone if the expansion isn't forthcoming. The nomination was a few hours late, though it was New Year's, so some leeway can of course be given. Article prose is above minimum length, but there are some referencing issues. There are a few bare URLs, including a citation to RIA Novosti, which, reliability issues aside, isn't optimal in an English Wikipedia article about a French singer. And what is the purpose of the refn template added in this edit? Hook is within length and verified to the Eurovision press release, though it doesn't capture interest. Maybe consider something that touches on the song's subject of bullying? --Paul_012 (talk) 18:25, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • The song article is over 1650 characters now if I counted correctly. (I'm not happy with it and I'm going to work on it some more. But I'm probably done for today and will return tomorrow.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 08:19, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • As it stands, some 540 bytes of text are shared between the two articles. I could subtract it off the longer article, which would leave both just barely above the 1,500 mark, but that's too close for comfort in my view. The lyrics quote is presented without context or analysis and doesn't quite satisfy WP:NFC, so I'm inclined to discount its length in addition to the policy issue. Unless you have time for significant work on the song article, I'd suggest going with the Zoé Clauzure article alone, and focus on addressing the referencing issues raised above. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:17, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • I will try to expand the article in the next couple of days. --Moscow Connection (talk) 18:46, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
          • Paul_012, I thought I'd have a look and see if we could push this through but really, I saw only problems. I took care of a couple of the bare URLs (shouldn't have been in there in the first place, and that's two months ago), removed a bunch of YouTube links, and tried to expand the biography, but there simply isn't much more. I looked for more sources, more recent ones, but didn't find them, and I am not sure that the article on the song can be expanded any more. If the biography is long enough, then go with that alone, I think. Drmies (talk) 18:42, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
            • Thanks, Drmies, for the improvements. I did a bit more clean-up. The referencing could still be better, as it currently relies a lot on primary sources (her website, the competitions' press releases), but as it stands there's nothing contentious or potentially controversial, so I don't see any BLP issues. Zoé Clauzure is now good enough to run alone, but it   still needs a better hook. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:53, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on December 30

Madeleine Steere

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 05:50, 6 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Madeleine Steere; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  
  • Interesting:  
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Nice work on this article! I only have a couple small issues that need addressing before I can pass this: the lead section is too short, it should really be expanded given the amount of information in the text of the article; and the first "a" in the "australia women's" section should be capitalised. Grnrchst (talk) 12:35, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Grnrchst: Thank you for your review. The said issues are addressed. Please check. CeeGee 09:36, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for seeing to it! I still think the lead could be a bit longer, but am happy to pass this review the now. Nice work :) --Grnrchst (talk) 09:39, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for approving. You are free to expand the lede. CeeGee 06:59, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's not interesting to me, but I don't know anything about college sports either. Why is "2018 All-American team" in scare quotes? What in particular makes this interesting? They have an all-american team every year. What makes this person being selected to it special? Grammar nit: shouldn't it be "selected for" instead of "selected in"?
  •   CeeGee I don't think this hook meets the interestingness criterion. Is it possible for you to find a better one? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:45, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have also tagged it as needing copyediting; there are numerous odd errors ("She capped in 67 international matches", "She enjoyed her team's champions title", etc.). ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:47, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Copyedited accordingly. I can not locate "etc." Thanks for your check. CeeGee 06:40, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @AirshipJungleman29: Ooh! Sorry, I missed it. Thank you again for your attention. I corrected it now. Check please. CeeGee 08:16, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   You have not. CeeGee, it might be good for you to nominate this article at WP:GOCE. In any case, you have not provided a new hook; unless you propose a new one which meets the criteria, this nomination will be rejected. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:02, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The sources do not support the hook (no mention of Steere "helping" her team, just her name in a roster—WP:SYNTH), which is in any case of the simple "person does job"-type. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:21, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 6

South Africa v. Israel (Genocide Convention)

Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Self-nominated at 22:29, 6 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/South Africa v. Israel (Genocide Convention); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  New article, long enough, fully supported by both primary and secondary source provided, and is interesting. No problems facing the bold-linked articles. QPQ has been done. The hook is neutral and factual and does not hold any opinions. The nomination is good to go. Makeandtoss (talk) 12:58, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I oppose that User:Makeandtoss will review this nomination he is involved in this WP:CTOP WP:ARBPIA area we need another reviewer that is not involved in the area. Suggest NPOV hook

There is no such thing as you oppose my review, which is based on WP guidelines, nor is there such a thing as requiring another reviewer who is not involved in the area. The original hook is factual and does not have opinions in it, unlike the one you suggested. Makeandtoss (talk) 10:59, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The WP:DYKRR is clear "use common sense here, and avoid even the appearance of conflict of interest." you edited this article and other articles in the WP:CTOP area. The original hook gives only prominence of South Africa POV so there is nothing neutral in it --Shrike (talk) 11:09, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've had people edit an article of mine before and edit in the topic area in question and still approve my nomination. It's not really that bit of a deal, so long as they are properly going through the requirements of approval. By the way, your proposed ALT is way more biased than the original hook and, considering you publicly state on your account that you are from Israel, you're the one that looks like they have a conflict of interest here and really should not be proposing such a hook. SilverserenC 16:25, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 is grammatically incorrect. starship.paint (RUN) 12:18, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Oppose original formulation and ALT1. The original proposal throws in the apartheid allegation, which is out of scope of the Genocide Convention and will not be adjudicated by the ICJ. ALT1 also cites an emotive and non-substantive "blood libel" rebuttal rather than the actual reasons that Israel denied the charges at the ICJ, namely that they are acting in self-defense and that the official directives of the authorities conducting the war do not show any genocidal intent. ALT3 seems to be best alternative, as it is a NPOV statement of fact that gets at the heart of the issue that the ICJ has been asked to rule on (in the short term). --Chefallen (talk) 17:12, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2: ... that during South Africa's genocide case against Israel, the Israeli legal team argued that the International Court of Justice had no jurisdiction over the war in Gaza? Source: Haaretz starship.paint (RUN) 12:40, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to me as a good suggestion though in my opinion the article is not stable yet Shrike (talk) 13:47, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Starship.paint: no objection in principle, and the proposed hook is entirely factual. My concern is that the statement leads a reader to assume that by jurisdiction we mean something it doesn’t mean. Shaw’s argument on the topic of jurisdiction was: (1) a procedural question about whether SA had given Israel enough time to discuss ahead of the case, and (2) whether there really is enough evidence to confirm the proposed facts of the case and the intent required therein. Plus none of this technical argument is currently explained in the article. Onceinawhile (talk) 15:28, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I'll have to look into this once I am free. I think we have time as the article will stabilize in the meantime. starship.paint (RUN) 23:06, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're right Onceinawhile, I found a source giving a description that roughly matches (1), whether there was an actual dispute between South Africa and Israel regarding their responses to each other. In that case ALT2 is potentially misleading. I've withdrawn it in the meantime. starship.paint (RUN) 06:06, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3: ... that South Africa's genocide case against Israel is aimed at persuading the International Court of Justice to order a ceasefire in Israel's war in Gaza? Source: Haaretz starship.paint (RUN) 09:44, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support this version. NPOV statement of fact that gets at the heart of the issue that the ICJ has been asked to rule on, unlike original and ALT1. --Chefallen (talk) 17:15, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Chefallen and Shrike: - would either of you like to approve ALT3 then and mark this nomination as ready? I mean, the opposition to original hook and ALT1 is clear, surely the DYK promoter would not choose those. starship.paint (RUN) 15:00, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As the court rejected the cease fire demand we need to reflect this in hook [8] --Shrike (talk) 17:58, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT3 is factually incorrect taking a strict view. And its given source is dated Jan 11, well before the recent Order with detailed discussion, so the source is speculative. South Africa did not ask for a two sided "ceasefire". Going to the ICJ judgement, it records that South Africa asked for "The State of Israel shall immediately suspend its military operations in and against Gaza" (page 3). SA actually asked for a one-sided "suspension", not a "ceasefire". So a DNY claiming something that is demonstrably not in the actual Order is a pretty silly. The ICJ did in fact order a provisional measure that Israel prevent the commission of "(a) killing members of the group (b) causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group", (measure 1 on pages 24-25) where "group" is roughly the Palestinian population of Gaza, so did in fact order something approximating to what SA asked. (As Palestine (or Hamas) is not a State Party to the Convention, I doubt that ICJ can actually order either of them to do things, hence SA did not ask for that.) Rwendland (talk) 21:29, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. ALT3 is simply not correct - the case is aimed at stopping an actual or potential genocide, depending on your point of view. Onceinawhile (talk) 22:18, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Struck. starship.paint (RUN) 02:18, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What was wrong with the original main hook again? It was completely factual per the ICJ filing by South Africa and is interesting because apartheid isn't as much discussed about the filing as compared to the genocide aspect. SilverserenC 02:24, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT4: ... that during South Africa's genocide case against Israel, the International Court of Justice initially ordered Israel to "punish the direct and public incitement to commit genocide" against Palestinians in Gaza? Source: ABC News starship.paint (RUN) 02:47, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  ALT4 is short enough, interesting, and cited, though the site is down and you will need this archived link. Anyone who wants to come at me with why I should approve a different hook may do so. I personally choose not to promote articles in the throes of a requested move to avoid risking having a redirect on the main page, but while we're waiting:
Refs 78 and 135 are malformed (78 uses a [1] for a title, 135 has a bare URL).
Ref 184 is cited to TASS and refs 64, 138, 185, 220 are cited to Anadolu Agency, which are both listed at WP:RSP as being unreliable, and ref 181 claims to cite Anadolu Agency when it instead cites A.com.tr, instead of Aa.com.tr. Can these be remedied?--Launchballer 03:10, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Onceinawhile: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 02:20, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 10

Stefano Černetić

Created by BuySomeApples (talk). Self-nominated at 02:27, 20 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Stefano Černetić; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  •   The DYK is certaily interesting, and the sources cited support the statement. I'm IAR'ing the 9/10 days, given the AfD and the very interesting hook, so no problems there. I can't find the corresponding source and body text for the fact he falsely claimed to be a prince of Macedonia, so that BLP issue needs to be sorted. I'll need to do a further spot-check still for BLP/copyvio. Earwig is clean, QPQ is done. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 18:56, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've done spot checks on four paragraphs, showing good text-source integrity and no copyvio/transvio :). Minor point: What make Wine Spectator a reliable source? This may be subjective, but this seems a bit too close to gossip to me? —Femke 🐦 (talk) 20:39, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the review! Ref2 (https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nieuws/buitenland/artikel/5322041/nepprins-montenegro-djukanovic-cernetic) mentions him claiming to be prince of Macedon, although I think his claim to being prince of Montenegro was the more legally significant since the Montenegrin government is the one that complained. Wine Spectatory is probably reliable because it seems to have editorial standards for its writers/editors (https://www.winespectator.com/articles/about-our-tastings). I can definitely remove it though if you're uncertain, it isn't really an important part of the article and the topic is a bit gossip-y since the winery owner is ultimately the source. BuySomeApples (talk) 00:05, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please ensure it's clear in the article that RTL Nieuws is the source here. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 14:43, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 11

Myanmar Photo Archive

Created by Munfarid1 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:14, 16 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Myanmar Photo Archive; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  •   The article was nominated within a week of creation, so is new enough. It is more than long enough. In-line citations are properly used throughout the article and the only things the copyvio detector brings up are the quotes, which are fine. All of the hooks are good and are cited in-line. Not sure which one is the best, I like ALT2, but perhaps it's too coy? Either way, they're all good. The QPQ has been done. Looks good to go! SilverserenC 03:43, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    •   As noted on the talk page, I have tagged the article for over-quotations and close paraphrasing. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:50, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • As noted on the talk page, I have deleted several quotations and considerably improved the section avoiding close paraphrasing. IMHO, this has resolved the flagged isssues, and I have deleted the hatnotes. Munfarid1 (talk) 17:06, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't know why this was lingering for so long, but I do not believe it's ready yet for the front page. I have made all kinds of smaller edits--for promotional tone, incomplete/incorrect citation templates, excessive quoting, an example of basically copying source text. I think this needs another good editing turn by the author (Munfarid1) and then a final check. Also, and I'm sorry to say this, I don't like any of the proposed hooks. The first is almost trivial, the second is very precise but I don't see how it generates interest, and the third is kind of vague. Surely there's more to do with this material; maybe pull something out of the Reception section. But first there's just more cleanup to do. Drmies (talk) 22:34, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I have just added ALT3 and ALT4 and hope one of these will catch readers' attention. After you, Drmies, have improved several issues after your comments here, and I have also changed the date formats as you advised, I don't know, which issues might be still stand in the way for this DYK nomination to be published. (For more comments, see Talk:Myanmar_Photo_Archive) Munfarid1 (talk) 12:02, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 13

M-Beat

5x expanded by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 13:26, 13 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/M-Beat; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  • Do I understand it correctly that Junior Hart stated that he first met M-Beat by accident in 1989 and helped him because of being impressed by his drumming, while actually Junior Hart is M-Beat's father? (Just a question, I'm not planning to review the article yet.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 02:15, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not quite, Music Week asserted in its own words that that was how they met. I've been working on the principle that he disappeared for several years.--Launchballer 07:14, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unlikely he had disappeared. He was about 13 in 1989. And he played in a school group. And according to the next section, he still lived with his parents at 21. (No, I'm not reviewing this.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 12:23, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Right. Well, for any future reviewer, 'disappeared' was the wrong word, and I meant Junior in any case - he could very well have not found out Marlon was his until later.--Launchballer 12:50, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Reviewer needed. Z1720 (talk) 02:27, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 14

Perihan Çınar

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 10:17, 17 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Perihan Çınar; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  • (Not a review) The hook is pretty boring, even if it were to be formatted to make it more idiomatic. Reading the article, I don't see anything more interesting. Please watch for typos; I corrected two just giving the page a quick glance. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 06:17, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • General eligibility:
  • New enough:  
  • Long enough:  
  • Other problems:   - The article contains numerous typos and errors. I have tagged it as needing copyediting.
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  
  • Interesting:   - n
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Current DYK guidelines which the article does not meet: WP:DYKINT and WP:DYKCOMPLETE. A new hook is needed, along with a copyedit for the article ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:37, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Modified a little. Sportspeople need license to perform a sport in a club. CeeGee 09:40, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @AirshipJungleman29: You must be joking. A sport license is not a subject for sale. Do I have to explain how a license is obtained? CeeGee 06:05, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • That is neither an explanation of how a license is obtained or a link to a relevant page on the Turkish hockey website, CeeGee. Please do not be obstructive. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 02:25, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't know who is obstructive. What do you mean whit a link to Turkish hockey. That was the link as I understood your request. For the license obtaining I advise you maybe ask someone you know who is familiar with sports. CeeGee 06:09, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • However, here is a link (in Turkish) for you. CeeGee 06:45, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   The link you have provided shows that her getting a license is not intriguing in the slightest—it might as well say "her parents filled out some forms when she was eleven". Since no interesting hooks have been nominated in the last week, I am marking this as rejected. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:19, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I guess you misunderstand the fact. At age eleven, she is able to fill out any forms. How do you know that her parents have filled out the forms. Besides, what does make the obtaining of the license not important. Do you try to fabricate reasons to block the nomination? I am sure someone would pay attention to your action. CeeGee 09:35, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Because I read the link you provided but clearly did not read yourself, which states that any license application from a person under eighteen needs parental permission. You are welcome to ask for wider attention at WT:DYK; I would however suggest you don't accuse others of acting in bad faith. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:29, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Isn't clear that minors need parental consent to enter into legal contracts. The fact is, however, she obtained the license to perform hockey in a clubata t her age eleven. The problem is that you come with unlogical arguments. CeeGee 06:10, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @CeeGee: I think the interestingness issue AirshipJungleman29 is alluding to is that obtaining a license to play a fairly dangerous sport professionally at a young age implies a level of skill, respect, or otherwise being a prodigy, while the reality is that anyone's parents can apply for such a license. At least, that's the only issue I can see with what they're complaining about. The question is - while the truth may be bland, it would not be technically incorrect to simply say the license was obtained at that age - so would it be wrong of DYK to let readers assume the fact is more interesting than it is? Kingsif (talk) 02:47, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Kingsif: Thank you very much indeed for your detailed axplanations. With "obtained her license at age 12", it is meant that she seriously started performing hockey sport at that very young age. I think this is interesting because not every kid starts performing hockey so early. If the readers would think this is not interesting at all, I can accept. But how do I learn that readers' opinion? CeeGee 07:15, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @CeeGee: No, I said that would be interesting, but Airship questioned if the source supported that conclusion. So the concern has to be if it is right for DYK to let the interesting thing be implied, if not certain it is the correct interpretation of the relatively simple fact, or if that counts as clickbait. Do you have thoughts on that? Kingsif (talk) 13:15, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Kingsif: Sources: "A Milli Kadın Hokey Takımı'nın kaptanı Perihan Çınar" (in Turkish) [16], " Lisans Tarihi : 12.12.2005" (in Turkish) [17]. Is there still suspicion? Thank you. CeeGee 14:14, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't think you are aware of/able to understand the issue being described. Kingsif (talk) 15:00, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • You may be right. Sorry for my incapacity. Maybe in just one clear sentence. CeeGee 08:35, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 15

Hermann Collitz

5x expanded by Wugapodes (talk). Self-nominated at 04:16, 15 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Hermann Collitz; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

(alternative hook which I found interesting) ALT1: ... that the German linguist Hermann Collitz had studied four languages at school by the age of 13, in addition to two more he encountered at home? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:34, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:   - n
  • Interesting:  
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   That review was pleasantly straightforward, and also informative. Very nice text expansion, balanced and reasonable, cited quite well. No earwig issues. Just one thing then - the rules for citation of the hook fact(s) are quite specific, and are not yet met. I don't think it will be a problem, but the hook fact(s) must appear in the article, and be cited "no later than the end of the sentence" - so Bryn Mawr for the subject needs a repeat cite, and I think that the points re. Thomas and Wilson need to be mentioned (and cited) in-article. I will be standing by. The ALT is mildly interesting but not maybe so exceptional - I know several bilingual kids who have also studied three further languages in school. SeoR (talk) 00:17, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 21

John Blair (surgeon)

Created by Whispyhistory (talk), Philafrenzy (talk), and Iainmacintyre (talk). Nominated by Whispyhistory (talk) at 09:18, 27 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/John Blair (surgeon); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  • Not a very interesting hook IMO. Can't you come up with anything better? Gatoclass (talk) 05:53, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A bit mean, but I agree. How about:
  • ALT1... that the Scottish surgeon John Blair received his degree for a thesis on the "Slipperiness of Human Fat"?
  • ALT2... that the Scottish surgeon John Blair was the only head boy at his school to receive his gold medal in the presence of his wife and child? (I think this was what Whispyhistory was actually getting at)
  • ALT3... that a shortage of gold meant that it was 60 years before the Scottish surgeon John Blair received his gold medal for being head boy at his school? (Whispyhistory to check the exact number of years) Philafrenzy (talk) 10:20, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, much better, thanks! I will return a little later to complete the review. Gatoclass (talk) 11:55, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, "head boy" won't work because it differs from dux. Gatoclass (talk) 11:09, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Would "best student" be better? Whispyhistory (talk) 12:10, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Top student" perhaps ... Gatoclass (talk) 12:22, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT3a... that a shortage of gold meant that it was 60 years before the Scottish surgeon John Blair received his gold medal for being top student at his school? Whispyhistory (talk) 18:01, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Seriously, why aren't we going with the slipperiness of human fat??? Philafrenzy (talk) 19:29, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Gatoclass: Are any of these hooks acceptable for you? Z1720 (talk) 02:25, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 22

Walker Keith Baylor

  • ... that Walker Keith Baylor voted in favor of a bill entitled "an act to more effectually prevent Sabbath breaking"? Source: Journal of the Alabama House of Representatives of the State of Alabama, begun and held at the town of Cahawba, on the third Monday in Nobember, 1825, Being the Seventh Annual Session of the General Assembly of Said State. Cahawba: William B. Allen, State Printers. 1826. pp. 100–101 – via the Wayback Machine.
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Created by Aneirinn (talk). Self-nominated at 23:07, 27 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Walker Keith Baylor; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 23

Leeds 2023

 
Hibiscus Rising sculpture from above

Created by Lajmmoore (talk). Self-nominated at 21:24, 29 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Leeds 2023; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  • Comment: @Lajmmoore: I like your hook, but the variant or dialect of English (British English?) reads oddly to my American ear. This reminds me of the "in hospital" style we see in British and Australian English (maybe Canadian, too?) that throws me off every time I see it. As an American, I almost expect "a" European Capital of Culture or "the" European Capital of Culture, but I think I get that you don't do this in your variant. Also, referring it to as a "scheme" made this dumb American very confused (I know, it's easy to do that to us). I also don't know what an "independent year of culture" is, but I assume it's not European based on the post-Brexit prompt. I wonder if you can dumb this hook down for us yanks across the pond. Viriditas (talk) 19:26, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT1...that people exchanged their artworks for tickets to attend the opening of Leeds 2023 (pictured)?https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/jan/10/i-get-knocked-down-leedss-year-of-culture-rises-from-the-ashes-of-brexit
    Thanks very much Viriditas for the comments - please don't talk down about yourself! It's my bad for not thinking globally in the first place. Hopefully this hook is better? Cheers Lajmmoore (talk) 13:20, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Interesting hook! Per the source, should you clarify that they didn't actually exchange artworks, but photos (or images) of art in exchange for tickets? I was confused by the hook until I read the source. Viriditas (talk) 19:40, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT1a...that people exchanged images of their artworks for tickets to the opening of Leeds 2023 (pictured)?https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/jan/10/i-get-knocked-down-leedss-year-of-culture-rises-from-the-ashes-of-brexit
Thanks for pointing out the need for clarification Lajmmoore (talk) 22:24, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I like what you are trying to accomplish! I tried to read about Leeds 2023 to find out more about it, but it is difficult for me to put it in words. I find this very strange. There must be a single, unifying term that explains or describes it, and I was hoping you could add this term to the hook to prompt the reader. The only word that I could come up with is showcase but I suspect that even that word doesn’t do it justice. Whatever Leeds 2023 is supposed to be, it sounds admirable and good. I just wish there was a way to describe it in your hook using just one or two words. Viriditas (talk) 09:48, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Viriditas, yeah it's tricky. I think the phrase in Europe is "year of culture", but that doesn't seem to have meaning with you. I'm going to try and come up with a different hook this week, if you don'tmind hanging on to review? Lajmmoore (talk) 22:04, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lajmmoore, that's fine. Viriditas (talk) 18:14, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  
  • Interesting:  
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Thanks for this nomination. I wonder if other non-Brits like myself will know what "a year of culture taking place in Leeds" means. I don't think it would be difficult to briefly explain it. I get it is a paid project for Leeds 2023, but we need to be mindful of corporate jargon and style. For example, I don't think we need three small blockquotes, that's a bit too promotional and advertis-y, so let's cut back on that entirely and put the quotes inline or get rid of them. There's no need for a centered blockquote, for example, stating the intent. Let's keep it encyclopedic. I would eliminate all blockquotes and move everything inline. The "Programme" section needs subsection titles, it's just too long without it and hampers readability. Also, I wonder how many people will know what a "damp squib" is, so maybe add a footnote explaining it or link to a definition. Although I checked the hook off in the review, I do note we are still working on it. I think ALT0 is ready to go, but the wording is not ideal. As long as the article is cleaned up for neutrality, I will be happy to approve it or another hook of the nominator's choice. Viriditas (talk) 02:31, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks Viriditas - I think I've addressed the points above. I'm uploading more images today, which I hope will inspire a new hook! Lajmmoore (talk) 08:39, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Lajmmoore: Great images! I assume you will be replacing the image in this nomination as well as adding a new hook? Let's get this show on the road, as they say. Viriditas (talk) 03:42, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What about the above? I swapped the image and struck the first alt as the image had changed. Lajmmoore (talk) 07:16, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Claire Guichard

Created by Moondragon21 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:12, 23 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Claire Guichard; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  • @Moondragon21: Based on DYKcheck: prose size fulfills criteria (2569 characters), article is recent enough. Suggest changing future to current in the hook.
    Suggestion
    ALT1:... that parliament member Claire Guichard once played in the miniseries Entre terre et mer? Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 23:51, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   @Moondragon21: Multiple short, uncited paragraphs in the Political career section need citations before this can be approved. ALT1 hook fact does not check out in supplied source. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 04:56, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Sammi Brie: I have now added citations. Moondragon21 talk 06:38 22 February 2024 (UTC)
      • @Moondragon21: The paragraph "In the National Assembly, she sits..." is still devoid of any citations. The Entre terre et mer fact is still not checking out to that source. ALT0 needs a minor rewording, probably the delinking of "French Prime Minister" and changing to "prime minister", to avoid a WP:SEAOFBLUE issue. Note: Your ping did not work: please sign your name normally with ~~~~ in the same edit as the ping. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 18:44, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 24

Demise and revival of compulsory figures

 
Sonja Morgenstern from Germany skates a compulsory figure, 1971

Created by Figureskatingfan (talk). Self-nominated at 23:59, 24 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Demise and revival of compulsory figures; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

The hook still seems quite complicated and hard to read. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:42, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: let's do some cutting then. ALT4: ... that a revival of compulsory figures began in 2015, when the first World Figure Championships occurred in Lake Placid, New York? Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 16:37, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: Could we have some movement on this, please? Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 21:45, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not a review of the article, but not really a fan of the hook since compulsory figures may not be a concept that's easily understandable by non-specialist readers. I'll ask for help for any possible hook suggestions because I think the current direction isn't working out. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:38, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I asked for some suggestions on Discord and someone suggested the following:
ALT5 ... that professional figure skating did not require its namesake figures for 25 years?
@Figureskatingfan: How does it sound? To me at least it solves the issues with specialism that the previous proposals had. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:49, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: ALT5 doesn't describe what the article is about, which is the demise and revival of compulsory figures. Plus, there are no sources in the article that support it. Also, the World Figure Championships isn't a professional event and the sport still doesn't require compulsory figures. One of the reasons for an interesting hook is to motivate the reader to click the link and learn about a new article. ALT4 has the potential of the reader thinking, "What are compulsory figures and what's the reason for its revival?" and go to the article to find out. Re:specialism: I could point to DYKs on the main page on any given day and make the same interpretation. Believe me, I've come across this objection about almost every figure skating article I've put up for assessment and it's not a strong argument. I don't think we should remove the technical aspects about figure skating from a DYK hook, either. Consequently, I ask that you approve ALT4. Thanks, Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 04:51, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  It is in the rules: a hook has to avoid being reliant on specialist knowledge, especially without context. If you have an issue with those other hooks, that would be worth raising on WT:DYK, but WP:OSE is not an argument when it comes to why such a hook could be allowed that time but not this. As for the article itself, it meets requirements and a QPQ has been done, but ALT4 as currently written won't work per WP:DYKINT (a hook should be "likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest"). The article relies on quotes from the CBS Sportsline quote: most are correctly attributed, but a few are unattributed paraphrases, so that needs to be addressed. My suggestion would be to workshop ALT5 further to address the issues about accuracy or sourcing, but ALT4 won't do. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:33, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Then I'd like to suggest ALT6: ... that Olympic figure skater Debi Thomas came in second place in a 2023 competition in compulsory figures? Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 16:57, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's even worse. What is significant about her coming in second place? Why would a non-figure skating fan find this significant? Plus ALT6 is even less to do with the demise and revival of figures than what ALT5 is trying to say. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:32, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Because she's Debi Thomas. Her coming in second place is like Tiger Woods not coming in first, either. The only reason a non-golf fan would know that it's important is because golf gets more media coverage than figure skating. I'm afraid that you'd have the same problem with any hook I suggest, a recurring issue with submitting figure skating articles for any peer review across Wikipedia. And it has a lot to do with the revival of figures because it was the first competition to bring back figures in any competition. I'm also not sure this discussion is going anywhere, so I'd like a second reviewer, please. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 06:08, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm just not seeing the issue here. Is ALT5 or a variant thereof really not workable? The other hooks seem to primarily be targeted towards skating fans, not general audiences, which goes against the spirit of DYK and the guidelines. If there have been repeated concerns about figure skating hooks on Wikipedia, maybe there's a reason to that: perhaps reviewers in general are just seeing the hooks as too technical or specialist. I just can't see why moving forward with some variant of ALT5 (even if not in its current form) isn't an option considering it seems like an actual interesting hook especially to non-skating fans and is likely to make them read more, unlike the other hooks which are likely to just turn readers away. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:58, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I want to make a separate comment. Most people who read the Main Page of Wikipedia are not figure skating fans, and a fair number will not know of the sport.
Some of this is simply because of the geographic diversity of our readership. Our Top 25 Reports really illustrate this. Ever heard of Ram Mandir? The Africa Cup of Nations? Shoaib Malik? These are all topics that got lots of pageviews at some point in recent weeks, and I doubt you will have heard of most of them. Even in places with more figure skating, not everyone will have heard of Debi Thomas.
As a veteran of DYK with a heavy contribution in an esoteric topic area (broadcasting in the US), I've thrown out a lot of dud hooks. Hooks that require knowledge of some or other name, like Lachlan Murdoch or John Seigenthaler, are among my worst performers. Regularly. Your ALT6 would fail to inspire a lot of interest. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 08:09, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not a reviewer, but I'd just like to pitch in and say I do agree that none of these hooks are interesting or honestly just pretty confusing as they require prior knowledge. I don't really think the article will work for DYK if this is the best it can produce. TheBritinator (talk) 16:29, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to echo what NLH5, Sammi, and Britinator said above. Most Main Page readers will know about something like, say, the World Cup, but not everyone is going to know about figure skating. If it is necessary to explain that Debi Thomas is the Tiger Woods of figure skating, then it is likely a good indicator that it may not be interesting to a casual reader. On the other hand, something like "... that Olympic figure skater Debi Thomas came in second place in a 2023 competition in compulsory figures, despite not having skated at all for 12 years?" might be more interesting. A hook like that doesn't require any special knowledge, but a contestant who scored 2nd, despite having stopped competing in that sport for over a decade, would likely attract readers regardless of the nature of the sport. Epicgenius (talk) 16:33, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I just noticed that Thomas is an orthopedic surgeon. Although that's not what she's primarily known for, an Olympic-skating orthopedic surgeon, scoring 2nd in a sport she hasn't practiced at all in 12 years, sounds interesting to me. Epicgenius (talk) 16:38, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yah, Thomas is an awesome human being. @Epicgenius: I was going to suggest a hook like yours but I was going for shortness before. ALT7: "... that Olympic figure skater Debi Thomas came in second place in a 2023 competition in compulsory figures, despite not having skated at all for 12 years?" Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 16:41, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Personally I think that would be an interesting hook. However, as I proposed this hook, it would be better for a third party to double-check this. Epicgenius (talk) 16:48, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My main concern with the Debi Thomas angle is that it seems to be more about Thomas rather than compulsory figures themselves. If the others are fine with Epic's wording though I won't object. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:47, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 26

Georgetown football, 1874–1889

Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:14, 3 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Georgetown football, 1874–1889; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  •   Article was newly written before it was nominated and is long enough and has sources where they're needed. Neutrally written, Earwig detects shared text but they are quotes that are attributed. I'd rather you rewrote the according to HoyaSaxa.com than copy that. Hooks are interesting. Sources indicate that Georgetown's first game was forfeited. Problem with that hook is that the HoyaFootball source is the only one there and all it says is that Georgetown beat Alexandria, 2-0. It doesn't say the game wasn't played. Censors hook is solid. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:24, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Muboshgu: Rewrote that one part; as for the HoyaFootball source, it has a note at the bottom that says Forfeit win, Alexandria team did not appear (2-0 is a score that was often used to indicate forfeit). BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:24, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Line of Duty (series 3)

  • ... that Jed Mercurio almost let "The Caddy" live? Source: [19] and [20] Quotes: "Dot’s escape was a bloody affair, and ended with him riddled with bullets, recording his dying declaration for Kate Fleming before passing away" and "Also, at the end of season 3, I seriously considered keeping the Caddy hidden from the rest of the team. Cottan came up with lots of plausible denial, framed Steve and continued within AC-12. But I knew people were desperate for justice."
    • ALT1: ... that Jed Mercurio almost let "The Caddy" live in series 3 of Line of Duty? Source: Same sources as above
    • Reviewed: N/A: First nomination
    • Comment: This is a work of fiction, but the fact considers real-world production information by sourcing a quote from the creator/writer. I believe that should allow it to pass DYKFICTION. I also came up with an alt hook In case the first would be considered an Easter Egg link. This is my first nomination, so I shouldn't need to review another article. I might also be able to try another alt if neither pass DYKFICTION.

5x expanded by TheDoctorWho (talk). Self-nominated at 04:53, 1 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Line of Duty (series 3); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Tapir!

Created by Suntooooth (talk). Self-nominated at 19:00, 26 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Tapir!; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Raoul Augereau

Created by Lettler (talk). Self-nominated at 16:34, 26 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Raoul Augereau; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 27

Sodankylä Old Church

 
The Sodankylä Old Church in 2019

Created by Juustila (talk). Self-nominated at 18:10, 27 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sodankylä Old Church; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  • Starting the review now. Updates to follow. Ktin (talk) 04:02, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
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  • Interesting:  
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall:   Article meets eligibility criteria. New. Long enough. No concerns with Earwig nor with tone. Some amount of copy edits might be required. Will note them below. Image is a nice one. Image seems to have been uploaded as "own work" with geo-location enabled. So, no concerns there. QPQ not needed. Ktin (talk) 04:55, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hook
    • Hook says that the church is "one of Finland's oldest and well preserved wooden churches". The source however says [the church] ... is one of Finland’s oldest preserved wooden churches. So, basis this source, the first part of the hook is quoted and the latter part (i.e. "well preserved") is a subjective opinion that is not born by the quote. Furthermore, when we say the statement in the latter part of the hook, we should quote it to a source that is independent. Currently, the source links to the city's tourism website if I understand it correct -- that might not be the best source.
    • Consider retaining the first part and remove the subjectivity in the second part unless we are able to source it to a reliable independent source. e.g. "the church is one of the oldest preserved wooden churches"

Article feedback below. The article is largely good with some improvement feedback below.

  • Lede
    • "The church is considered one of the best preserved wooden churches in Finland" -- According to whom? Can we tie that statement to Finnish Heritage Agency? If so, this can be a compelling statement. However, if we are saying "According to Visit Lapland, the church is considered one of the best preserved wooden churches in Finland," that might not be compelling enough
  • History
    • Some amount of copyediting might be required here across the section.
    • You could start with when construction began and when it was completed, rather than starting with when construction was completed and then coming back three sentences later to say when construction might have started.
    • "Valuable persons" -- consider rewording this phrase. Prominent people? Consider adding a few examples of these prominent people
    • "is best preserved as a mummy" -- reword this phrase
    • "renovated again in 1979–1980 and 1992–1995" -- if you are giving a range of dates consider using "between" instead of "in"
  • Structure
    • "Medieval tradition" -- is there further qualification that can be added here? e.g. Medieval tradition of xxx
    • "Exceptional way" -- I do not know the architectural concepts here, but, are we trying to say the planking is different from normal rafter structure. If so, consider rewording
  • Other Notes
    • Can we add any notes on what the church is used for currently? The Visit Sodankyla website says it is not open for visitors currently. Any details that you can add?

Handing this back to the nominator. Ktin (talk) 04:55, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

@Juustila: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 02:35, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ktin: Does the above address your concerns? Z1720 (talk) 18:31, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks for the nudge @Z1720:. I made a few copyedits on the article. I am going to make a minor edit to the hook.
If this is alright, I will go ahead and mark this approved. Thanks. Ktin (talk) 01:46, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm okay with this. Thanks. Juustila (talk) 02:59, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Approved. Ktin (talk) 04:00, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Reopening per concerns at WT:DYK – some more reliable sources for the hook (and excising the non-reliable sources) would be good before re-approval. Thanks :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 21:37, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Copying my note from WT:DYK.I agree with @Theleekycauldron:'s note in spirit. In fact I had noted that in my review. That said, the revised hook is a very basic one which is hard not to prove. The hook basically says, the church is one of the oldest preserved wooden churches. The fact is so-basic, that the mere existence of the church (in whatever active capacity) is sufficient to prove the hook. And, the tourism department website proves its existence, in my opinion. That said, if folks want to get a WP:RS source other than the tourism department website, and the nominator is willing, I will not stand in the way. Cheers.
  • Copying my note from WT:DYK. Another issue is that the final paragraph, from "The church does not have roof chairs" appears to be an uncredited machine translation of the Finnish article. TSventon (talk) 10:12, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The preceding paragraph, from "Stylistically, the church represents" also appears to be an uncredited machine translation of the Finnish article. TSventon (talk) 21:40, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the note and the findings TSventon. I am tagging @Juustila: to address some of these. Ktin (talk) 01:34, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In parallel, wanted to ask about the specific guidance we should be sharing with the nominators on this topic. I am somewhat unclear, because in the latest Vector 2022 skin, there seems to be a push to translate Wikipages to multiple languages using machine translations as a starting action. I am assuming that the skin / workflow asks folks to do their edits / checks after the machine translation is generated? Ktin (talk) 01:47, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ktin, what guidance we should share with nominators is possibly a question for WT:DYK, but the guidance I was using was Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia#Translating from other language Wikimedia projects, which says that content copied from Wikipedia, including translations, should be attributed in an edit summary. This has not been done, but can be done retrospectively. Help:Translation discourages unedited machine translations. I generally use Google translate, where the quality varies by language: Swedish to English often works well, Finnish to English needs more checking as seen here. I use the old skin, which also suggests translating articles using the Wikipedia:Content translation tool. If you are translating from English, the tool incorporates machine translation and asks you to review it. If you are translating into English, the tool does not incorporate machine translation. TSventon (talk) 01:22, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Juustila please have a look at the comments from TSventon at your convenience. Ktin (talk) 15:57, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TSventon (talk) 16:45, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If others think this is a better hook, then I give for ALT3 my approval. Juustila (talk) 17:34, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Juustila I believe that, as it is a government website, the source for my Alt3 is more reliable than the sources for Ktin's Alt2. The problem was the sourcing, not the hook. I have asked at WT:DYK if the sourcing of the article itself is a problem.
I noticed that the two paragraphs of the "Structure" section appeared been machine translated from the Finnish article. Are you aware now that coping within Wikipedia should be acknowledged in an edit summary, per Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia#Translating from other language Wikimedia projects? I have changed a few of the words based on the Swedish version. Is the rest of the article in your own words? Copying or translating content from other sources may be a Wikipedia:Copyright violation. TSventon (talk) 20:05, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

San Rafael Falls

5x expanded by Shannon1 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:42, 29 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/San Rafael Falls; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:   - Article says that the waterfall retreated upstream and disappeared over a few months, rather than just in February. A direct citation is also needed (the mention in the lead is ideal for hook eligibility).
  • Interesting:  

QPQ:   - Pending
Overall:   An interesting and tragic article; I would like to see the hook issue cleared up, but otherwise the article looks great. SounderBruce 05:00, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Shannon1: Can you please confirm how many DYK nominations you have so far? If it's more than five, you need to provide a QPQ for this nomination to proceed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:39, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Per the new tool I can confirm that Shannon1 has less than five nominations and thus does not need to do a QPQ. However, Shannon1 is currently on Wikibreak, so unless they return soon and address the issues, the nomination may have to be closed. Given that their userpage indicates a short wikibreak, the nomination may be marked for closure if there is no response or activity by the 22nd (one week after this comment). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:25, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I'm sorry I've been off Wikipedia for a bit and also busy working on another article so I forgot about this nomination. I'll add the citations to the lead. Would it be better if we changed the wording to "collapsed in February 2020 and disappeared within a few months"? Thank you, Shannon [ Talk ] 17:55, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @SounderBruce: Is this ready to be approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 02:28, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Shannon1: Please create an ALT hook that conforms with the statements in the article and source. The proposed wording in your comment should be fine. SounderBruce 04:28, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hiss (song)

Created by BeyPolite (talk). Nominated by MaranoFan (talk) at 19:45, 28 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Hiss (song); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  • That's much longer, and I think the law's name being the same as the rapper adds to both catchiness and interestingness.--NØ 07:15, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 28

Intermission (Hopper)

Created by Viriditas (talk) and Tryptofish (talk). Nominated by Viriditas (talk) at 21:51, 3 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Intermission (Hopper); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  • Comment to Viriditas: thanks for providing so many QPQs! Most of them check out, but No Rome is not a full review as required by a QPQ guidelines, so I've struck it. I'm shaky on Weaponization of antisemitism, as it's also not a full-review, but given the depth of the quickfail, I'm inclined to say that's okay. Good luck with this nom, looks great! :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:42, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Looks to me like Bogger holds both credits for doing both reviews, in case they don't know that they're entitled to use that nom a second time :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:43, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Theleekycauldron: Thank you. I completely missed that. Viriditas (talk) 01:52, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • I updated it with a third hook. Will update with a fourth shortly. I removed the other two since it still shows up in what links here and that could throw people off. Viriditas (talk) 00:22, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kenneth Raisbeck

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:34, 28 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Kenneth Raisbeck; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  •   This is not a full review, but I have some reservations about the hook. If a reader is unfamiliar with Wolfe or his novel, the hook doesn't really stand out, making the hook somewhat reliant on specialist knowledge. Can a more broadly understandable hook be proposed here? Although morbid, I wonder if a hook regarding the dispute regarding the circumstances of his death could work. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:50, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @4meter4: I was asking for some feedback off-Wiki regarding this nom and Pretzelles offered this alternative wording:
ALT1 ... that despite falling out with its author, Kenneth Raisbeck was the basis for a character in the novel Of Time and the River?
Personally I think it's better than the original hook since it's less reliant on specialist knowledge. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:09, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5 I am fine with the alternative hook provided Wolfe is named in the text. I don't necessarily think specialist knowledge is needed. Thomas Wolfe is a major American novelist. He was required reading when I went to high school (I read Look Homeward Angel in 11th grade English) and college (I read 'Of Time and the River in freshman English lit). It would be like not knowing who Ernest Hemingway, F. Scott Fitzgerald, Edgar Alan Poe, or Mark Twain are when it comes to American Lit. It would be rare to take a course in classic American lit in high school or college without reading Thomas Wolfe. He's a central writer, and is not exactly an esoteric topic. There is a whole slew of CliffsNotes and other study materials made for high school and college students for the novel Of Time and the River because it is a regularly assigned novel in English lit courses. The typical American will have studied Wolfe in school. I suppose global audience may not be as familiar with Wolfe, but certainly he is read in the UK. The Brits made a 2016 biopic film Genius which is about the writing of Of Time and the River so its not like this novel hasn't been in the broader public consciousness recently. I would oppose not including Wolfe's name in the hook because Wolfe's name is the immediate draw that make's it hooky in the same way other famous novelists like Twain, Poe, Dickens, Austen, etc. would be a draw. And yes Wolfe is in that class of major well known novelist (which is why we have things like biopic films being made on him). 4meter4 (talk) 00:18, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose global audience may not be as familiar with Wolfe. This is really the issue here. Per WP:DYKINT: don't assume everyone worldwide is familiar with your subject. What we could do, as a compromise, could be ALT1a ... that despite falling out with its author, Kenneth Raisbeck was the basis for a character in the Thomas Wolfe novel Of Time and the River?, but it should still be noted that hooks should not be US centric (maybe it's me not being an American, but I have never heard of Wolfe before though I know who Twain, Poe, and Dickens are, and I imagine they're far more well-known internationally). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:01, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. One can't always know if something is US centric if you are yourself American and lack an outsiders perspective. I think the alt hook with the addition of Wolfe's name would be fine.4meter4 (talk) 01:07, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Umrao Singh Sher-Gil

5x expanded by Ktin (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Ktin (talk) at 07:38, 28 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Umrao Singh Sher-Gil; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 29

Sukadji Hendrotomo

Created by Jeromi Mikhael (talk). Self-nominated at 23:52, 29 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sukadji Hendrotomo; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 31

Head Harbour Lighthouse

 
East Quoddy Head Light, a.k.a. Head Harbour Lighthouse
  • ... that there's an East Quoddy Head Lighthouse (pictured) and a West Quoddy Head Lighthouse across the bay from one another (in matching colors!) but that one is in Canada and the other is in the United States? Source: https://www.lighthousefriends.com/light.asp?ID=1022
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: East Quoddy and West Quoddy are an adorable pair of lighthouses in the Bay of Fundy between Maine, USA and New Brunswick, Canada. They're both painted a bright red and white, (with America's in patriotic stripes and Canada's with a classic St. George's Cross,) and are just a delightful twin site. I noticed there wasn't an article for East Quoddy (a.k.a. Head Harbour Light), so I wrote one up and am submitting this now, hopefully you like it!

Created by Garnet Moss (talk). Self-nominated at 03:32, 4 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Head Harbour Lighthouse; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  •   I'm not sure this qualifies as a reliable source, it appears to be the self-published work of an amateur. nableezy - 16:27, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's a thorough, secondary source for information about many lighthouses, which further cites primary sources. I'm happy to submit other links to more authoritative sources, but I chose this one because it included info about both East and West Quoddy in the same body of text, so it seemed most relevant. (Also, sorry if this is bad protocol, this is my first DYK!) Garnet Moss (talk) 23:12, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It is secondary sure, but it is self-published and I dont see anything indicating the author has academic works on the topic to make it a usable self-published source. So yes, please do include some other source for the statement. Thanks, nableezy - 14:17, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sure thing; I'll note the "statement" is essentially just that this pair of lighthouses exists on the bay. If a simple tourism page would work, there's this one from the New Brunswick tourism department's website, noting that the lighthouse is twinned with West Quoddy. If something more 'serious' would be preferred, I'd have to cite a pair of pages, like this one from the official Canadian Register of Historic Places website, in conjunction with this one from the offician American National Register of Historic Places website. These don't reference one another, but they site the location in the same bay. Hopefully one of these options would work! Garnet Moss (talk) 03:29, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Im sorry, maybe I just dont have enough background here, but the tourism site just says It is the older sister light of West Quoddy Light in Lubec, Maine. It doesn't support the matching colors, which I know you can see from photos, but I dont know if this really rises to supported by a reliable source for the hook. nableezy - 16:19, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Herwig Gössl

Created by Modussiccandi (talk). Self-nominated at 10:03, 1 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Herwig Gössl; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]


Articles created/expanded on February 2

Itutumba Ka ng Tatay Ko

Created by RapMonstaXY (talk). Self-nominated at 13:14, 2 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Itutumba Ka ng Tatay Ko; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  •   Even as someone familiar with Gibbs, the hook probably won't appeal to those outside the Philippines, so a new hook is probably needed here. Maybe a hook about the connection with his late father would be better? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:12, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, that sounds okay. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:41, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination and is free of close paraphrasing. ALT1 is cited inline and verified in the source. No QPQ has been given, please confirm if you have over five nominations, because if this is the case then you will need to provide a QPQ for this nomination to proceed. I think the Production section could use some copyediting. Once these issues are addressed the nomination will be approved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:48, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alfred de Laage de Meux

 
De Meux, ca. 1915–1917

Created by Tails Wx (talk). Self-nominated at 15:36, 2 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Alfred de Laage de Meux; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Paul Nunn

The basic fact that Nunn was a climbing double for Connery is in this Google Books extract

Created by Babybrew6 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:13, 3 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Paul Nunn; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  •   Nice article. It was nominated within seven days of being accepted into mainspace. I don't have access to some of the journals cited within the article but have been able to verify the hook fact. QPQ not required. G2G--NØ 19:17, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Babybrew6 and MaranoFan: Might be some WP:CLOP to address. Bruxton (talk) 05:01, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Babybrew6: miss-pinged Bruxton (talk) 05:02, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  There is also significant uncited material in the article Babybrew6. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:14, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AirshipJungleman29: A few extra citations added in various places, not sure that I can see any other points which might need any but happy to edit further if specific items are flagged up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Babybrew6 (talkcontribs) 22:35, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Repinging AirshipJungleman29, since the previous ping failed due to lack of a sig at time of posting. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Articles created/expanded on February 3

Sean Jackson (basketball)

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 05:45, 10 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sean Jackson (basketball); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

This is a peculiar date request. I was initially going to request this run on the date that Princeton's postseason game is to occur. However, it is looking like Princeton will not appear in either the 2024 NCAA Division I men's basketball tournament or 2024 National Invitation Tournament. As a result, I will tentatively request March 16 to coincide with the 2024 Ivy League men's basketball tournament. But I would like to reserve the right to reevaluate the prospect following the games of March 2nd to say whether I would like to change to betting on a later date.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:54, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ali Ahmed Karti

5x expanded by Crispulop (talk). Self-nominated at 17:12, 9 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ali Ahmed Karti; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Fursan al-Aqsa: The Knights of the Al-Aqsa Mosque

Created by BuySomeApples (talk) and Thisisarealusername (talk). Nominated by BuySomeApples (talk) at 05:27, 7 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Fursan al-Aqsa: The Knights of the Al-Aqsa Mosque; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  • Comment The article may not be notable at all, violating the notability requirement of WP:DYK, as it uses several unreliable sources, including Hooked Gamers, one of the sites that reviewed the game. Additionally, even if it were notable, if all a game is known for is a controversy, then the controversy itself would be notable rather than the game. There are also some WP:UNDUE issues with the writing, as the article describes the perpetrators as "freedom fighters" without clarifying it is a fringe viewpoint. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 02:06, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I tweaked the dev's quotes to fix the UNDUE concerns, but I'm pretty sure this meets notability requirements. We have Haaretz, Jerusalem Post and Ynet articles about it, and some games do become notable mostly because of controversy. I don't think having a standalone page about the controversy would be better than the current page. Hooked Gamers wouldn't be enough to meet notability requirements on its own, but it seems reliable enough to include (it seems to have editorial standards and Metacritic counts it). BuySomeApples (talk) 02:19, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Metacritic counts numerous websites that are considered (by Wikipedia) to be unreliable. It does have metrics where it counts smaller sites less, but we don't have said metrics, it's all or nothing. Hooked Gamers blatantly states they are "volunteer-run" and it does not mention editors, only contributors. It is clear that they are not experts, I don't see why they should be taken any more seriously than someone's blog. It's not mentioned in WP:VG/S, but if it were it would likely be strictly in the unreliable column.
The reason why a solely controversial game cannot be encyclopedic in the absence of reviews is that WP:INDISCRIMINATE requires something to demonstrate its "development, design, reception, significance, and influence". Said game would have no influence, and would fall under WP:NOT. Having influence is demonstrated by some kind of commentary on the substance of the game and not just its broad themes. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 04:47, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you really have a problem with Hooked Gamers, the source can be removed but it's by far not the only or best ref supporting the article. Take the page to AfD if you're still worried about notability, it's the only way to get consensus. BuySomeApples (talk) 06:04, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I should probably note that, as written, this article would deserve {{no lead}}, so one would have to be added. I did enjoy reading that Hooked Gamers piece, and probably wouldn't have checked it as part of a review, but I'm not seeing the word 'editor' anywhere relevant, so (with regret) it should come out. A cursory google search says this article passes muster for an encyclopedia.--Launchballer 13:47, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Someone else took out the subsections since the page was a bit short, I expanded it and improved the lede. Took out the Hooked Gamers so it's mostly just news coverage now. BuySomeApples (talk) 01:31, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Great, now this needs a full review. (I'm sorry I didn't say this earlier, but I review oldest first and there's a few ahead, so any other reviewer is welcome to jump in before I do.)--Launchballer 09:42, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lianxing Temple

  • ... that the White Dagoba at the Lianxing Temple in Yangzhou was not built by Iranian nomads 1000 years ago? Source: Snow, Edgar; et al. (10 August 1929), "Journeying through Kiangsu: From Shanghai to the Capital via the Shanghai Nanking Railway", China Weekly Review, vol. XLIX, Shanghai: Millard Publishing Co., p. 568, for the fact that some people used to believe that. Every other source in the article and world for the fact that it's wrong.
    • ALT1: ... that the White Dagoba at the Lianxing Temple in Yangzhou was probably not originally made of an enormous pile of salt? Source: Morris, Edwin T. (1983), The Gardens of China: History, Art, and Meanings, New York: Scribner, p. 122, for the fact that it's a traditional story in China. "White Pagoda", Official site, Yangzhou: Slender West Lake Scenic Spot, 2023, for it probably being wrong in the opinion of the site's caretakers and official historians.
    • ALT2: ... that the Taiping rebels destroyed most of Yangzhou's Lianxing Temple but left its White Dagoba alone so it could be used as a watchtower? Source: Olivová, Lucie B. (2009), "Building History and the Preservation of Yangzhou", Lifestyle and Entertainment in Yangzhou, NIAS Studies in Asian Topics, No. 44, Copenhagen: Nordic Institute of Asian Studies, p. 17.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Barley
    • Comment: Kindly do not add extraneous links to the hooks. DYK is here to promote the newly created articles and readers can click through if interested.

Created by LlywelynII (talk). Self-nominated at 20:13, 3 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lianxing Temple; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 4

Paleoallium

 
Paleoallium billgenseli scape and floretes
  • ... that propagation in the fossil amaryllis relative Paleoallium (pictured) may have been with floods or pollinators? Source: Pigg, Bryan, & DeVore 2018 "Why Produce a Combination of Bulbils and Flowers? paragraphs 2 & 3"
    • ALT1: ... that while named for alliums, the fossil Paleoallium (pictured) was not specifically named as directly related to any allium species? Source: Pigg, Bryan, & DeVore 2018 "Establishment of New Taxon: For our model, we illustrate Allium cepa var. proliferum, known as the Egyptian walking onion (figs. 1I, 2E, 3A, 4F); however, we do not imply a direct relationship to this or another particular modern species."
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Crassispira incrassata

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self-nominated at 03:01, 4 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Paleoallium; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

1770s Pacific Northwest smallpox epidemic

Moved to mainspace by Generalissima (talk). Self-nominated at 19:41, 4 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/1770s Pacific Northwest smallpox epidemic; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  
  • Interesting:  
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Good work on this article! I'll assume that the offline source has the information in the hook. :) ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 03:31, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 @Generalissima: I am unable to confirm the hook in this article. Lightburst (talk) 05:49, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Lightburst:@Z1720: I'm a bit confused by this; I feel the hook is a fairly plain summary of the first two sentences of the Historical accounts section within the article: "A severe paucity of sources limits research into the spread and effects of the pandemic. No European explorers directly witnessed the pandemic, only writing about their effects. Anthropologist Robert T. Boyd describes the epidemic as existing in a "shadowy period at the juncture of the protohistoric and historic eras", occurring almost immediately prior to sustained European presence in the Pacific Northwest." Generalissima (talk) 20:13, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 5

Allenbya collinsonae

  • ... that only one fruit but several thousand seeds were known when Allenbya collinsonae was named? Source: Cevallos-Ferriz and Stockey 1989 page 207 "Material and methods" "One fruit and several thousand seeds have been found in chert blocks near Princeton, British Columbia. These seeds are some of the most common fossils in the chert."
    • ALT1: ... that Allenbya collinsonae waterlily seeds are some of the most common Princeton Chert fossils? Source: Cevallos-Ferriz and Stockey 1989 page 207 "Material and methods" "One fruit and several thousand seeds have been found in chert blocks near Princeton, British Columbia. These seeds are some of the most common fossils in the chert."
    • ALT2: ... that the waterlily Allenbya is named for the same ghost town as a rock formation? Source: Cevallos-Ferriz and Stockey 1989 page 208 ETYMOLOGY. The genus is named after the abandoned mining town of Allenby from which the Allenby Formation also takes its name
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ephelcomenus
    • Comment: Article started by @Conan Wolff: on 5 February 2024, expanded by Kevmin from there

Created by Kevmin (talk) and Conan Wolff (talk). Nominated by Kevmin (talk) at 20:18, 10 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Allenbya collinsonae; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Paula Arai

** ALT1: ... that Paula Arai experienced racial and sexual discrimination as a scholar because she embedded herself in the lives of the Japanese Sōtō Zen women she studied? Source: Tsomo, Karma Lekshe. (2021). "Paula Kane Robinson Arai: Navigating Cultural Intimacy and Scholarly Authority". In Challenging Bias against Women Academics in Religion; Colleen Hartung, ed., p. 194-196.

Created by Figureskatingfan (talk). Self-nominated at 21:12, 5 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Paula Arai; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing:  
  • Neutral:   - Some descriptions of the subject's books include non-neutral direct quotations from the subject; this is the case for Women living Zen and The Little Book of Zen Healing. Moreover, the often laudatory tone of a main source (Tsomo, Karma Lekshe, 2021. "Paula Kane Robinson Arai: Navigating Cultural Intimacy and Scholarly Authority") is perhaps not sufficiently toned down for an encyclopedia, especially because of the numerous direct quotations. Besides, the Tsomo paper often cites personal communication with the subject as its source, and for this reason its reliability as a source is perhaps not perfect.--NikosGouliaros (talk) 21:04, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you point out the specific examples of non-neutral quotations? Are you talking about the LSU staff page in the case of Women Living Zen and Arai's webpage for Zen Healing? The use of quotations, or rather the overuse of them, is debatable, I think, but I could go through and paraphrase them if you like. And a source using interviews and oral history doesn't make it unreliable.

Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 22:54, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, these are the ones: The quotation from an author-affiliated website that she "changes the face of Zen scholarship", and the one from her own website that mentions how the practices she describes bring about "gratitude that melts fear and anger" don't strike me as absolutely neutral. Would I mind them in, say, a featured article? I think so. Are they reason to dismiss the dyk nomination? Possibly not; a more experienced reviewer should tell.NikosGouliaros (talk) 23:21, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  
  • Interesting:  
  • Other problems:   - I dare say the hook may benefit from some tweaking: it repeats 'Buddhist studies' as 'study Buddhist'; and the phrase 'use ethnography' sounds (to my ears, as a user of English as second language) not great.--NikosGouliaros (talk) 21:04, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, it states that Arai studied Buddhist laywomen and nuns and using a field of study to conduct research is common use. Is this better? ALT0: ...that Paula Arai, a Buddhist studies scholar, used ethnographic data to research the lives of Buddhist laywomen and nuns? Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 22:54, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How about 'that Paula Arai, a Buddhist studies scholar, conducted ethnographic research on Buddhist laywomen and nuns?' Or perhaps (quoting from Tsomo, page 196) 'lived for more than a year at Japan’s leading Sōtō Zen monastic training center, conducting ethnographic research?' NikosGouliaros (talk) 16:32, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm fine with your revision of ALT0. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 21:43, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   NB: The alternative hook is not properly cited: it is a bold statement that is not nearly found in the source as it is written; one could perhaps accept it if 'because' (which just needs more context to be understood) is changed to 'when'. Still, one feels a bit unsure of the neutrality of the source.--NikosGouliaros (talk) 21:04, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, then let's make that change, although I suspect that we're gonna use ALT0 anyway: ... that Paula Arai experienced racial and sexual discrimination as a scholar because she embedded herself in the lives of the Japanese Sōtō Zen women she studied? Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 22:54, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid I don't see how a phrase as strong as 'racial and sexual discrimination' can be gathered from the source. A more experienced reviewer should contribute here. NikosGouliaros (talk) 16:32, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Since it looks like we're gonna go with ALT0, I withdraw ALT1, so an additional reviewer doesn't seem to be necessary. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 21:43, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I note this is my first DYK review. NikosGouliaros (talk) 21:04, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Figureskatingfan and NikosGouliaros: I don't find ALT0 interesting, as a simple 'person does their job' hook. I do find ALT1 interesting, and I would say that "several of these institutions created an untenable environment for women, especially women of color" means the same as "racial and sexual discrimination". If you are happy to unstrike it, I can approve it.--Launchballer 09:52, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer and NikosGouliaros: I have both unstriked (sp?) and rewrote ALT0: ... that Paula Arai experienced racial and sexual discrimination as a scholar because several institutions created an untenable environment for women, especially women of color?

Billy Fitzgerald (lacrosse)

Created by Giants2008 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:32, 5 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Billy Fitzgerald (lacrosse); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

ALT0 is incorrect (he was voted second best Canadian player) and excessively wordy. Suggested alt:

  • ALT1: ... that a journalists' poll rated Billy Fitzgerald the second best Canadian lacrosse player of the first half of the 20th century? Gatoclass (talk) 09:49, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Can't believe I missed that in the source. Thanks for the catch; it's been fixed in the article now. ALT1 definitely looks better than the first blurb. Giants2008 (Talk) 02:16, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Reviewer needed for ALT1. Gatoclass (talk) 12:45, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Actually, a full review is needed, because only the original hook has been reviewed here thus far. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:44, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on February 6

Salar del Huasco

 
Salar del Huasco

5x expanded by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk). Self-nominated at 12:37, 12 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Salar del Huasco; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Is This Band Emo?

Created by PantheonRadiance (talk). Self-nominated at 01:00, 10 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Is This Band Emo?; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  • I will review this. TompaDompa (talk) 15:25, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  
  • Interesting:  
QPQ: None required.

Overall:   Article created on 7 February, and meets the length requirement. All sources are, as far as I can tell, reliable for the material they are cited for. Earwig reveals no copyvio, and I didn't spot any instances of unacceptably WP:Close paraphrasing. The hook is properly cited and seems interesting enough. This is the nominator's fifth DYK nomination (after Template:Did you know nominations/Maximilian Dood, Template:Did you know nominations/Etika, Template:Did you know nominations/The Impossible Quiz, and Template:Did you know nominations/The Creative Gene), so they are QPQ exempt. Some comments on the content:

  • The "Origins" section relies almost entirely on an interview with Mullen. See WP:PRIMARY.
  • in response to its increasing mainstream prevalence – I'm not sure I get this from the cited source?
  • Mullen lamented the misunderstood notions of the genre – whether or not it is misunderstood is a matter of opinion, and as such should not be presented in WP:WikiVoice.
  • noting how the mainstream press often associated the genre solely with bands such as My Chemical Romance and Fall Out Boy, alongside the culture's aesthetics – I'm not sure I get this from the cited source?
  • spent several months including bands with interspersed jokes on the site – odd phrasing.
  • Bands listed as emo on the site include [...] – any particular reason to list them in this specific order? Alphabetical would seem most intuitive to me.
  • I didn't spot Rites of Spring mentioned on any of the cited sources as listed on the website to be an emo band. Did I miss it?
  • despite their long-term association with the genre – neither cited source makes this point.

Ping PantheonRadiance. TompaDompa (talk) 21:12, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Juniperus scopulorum

5x expanded by MtBotany (talk). Self-nominated at 18:10, 7 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Juniperus scopulorum; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

References

Run (meme)

Created by PetraMagna (talk). Nominated by BuySomeApples (talk) at 05:34, 7 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Run (meme); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  •   Article is new enough and long enough. What makes this a reliable source? Where does #9 say that the meme had an enthusiastic reception? Gonna wonder if the Chinese government had anything to say (or do) about this thing. Didn't notice any copyvio or plagiarism. I'd go for ALT1. QPQ seems OK. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:18, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The site claims that they are established by Hong Kong University's Journalism and Media Studies Centre. I found confirmation of that claim on JMSC's site. There are older archives such as [22] and [23] whose domain name indicate that the project was a part of Hong Kong University. My speculation is that China Media Project became independent from Hong Kong University at some point, changed their domain, and moved to the US and Taiwan, which is not surprising considering the fate of other news services in Hong Kong (those are my guesses, though). An article from the Guardian quoted the director (Bandurski) in 2019 and stated that CMP is affiliated with HKU. I can keep digging for other sources, but I think this is good enough for establishing credibility. Bandurski is still the director and wrote the source quoted in the article, at least according to the China Media Project site, and I don't see indications of the site becoming an inferior source after becoming independent from HKU.
The "enthusiastic reception" sentence might be an extrapolation on my part. I will look around the source to see what made me think that and rewrite it if I can't find anything. As for governmental responses, I remember seeing some sources speculate that the term was invented to circumvent censorship, and search engines were preventing users from accessing internet search trends because of spikes in emigration-related queries. I can expand it in this respect in the next few days when I'm available. PetraMagna (talk) 17:29, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Most of the content concerns have been addressed. As for censorship, I added that the term was created to circumvent censorship. I don't believe the term is censored in China as of now, though I can still add censorship of immigration-related search result later. One remaining issue with the article is that the sections seem to blend together to me. Perhaps there's a way to better organize the article. PetraMagna (talk) 08:20, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jo-Jo Eumerus: Is this approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 02:32, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Z1720: I wanted to know if there is some follow up to PetraMagna's One remaining issue with the article is that the sections seem to blend together to me. Perhaps there's a way to better organize the article Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:49, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't sure how to improve the article in this respect, so I swept it under the rug. I'll see if I can do something about it this weekend. PetraMagna (talk) 06:18, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of accolades received by The Last of Us (TV series)

Created by ZooBlazer (talk) and Rhain (talk). Nominated by ZooBlazer (talk) at 05:14, 7 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/List of accolades received by The Last of Us (TV series); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Gorontalo (city)

Created by Nyanardsan (talk). Self-nominated at 14:38, 6 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Gorontalo (city); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

R. Ames Montgomery

 
Montgomery c. 1924

Moved to mainspace by PCN02WPS (talk). Self-nominated at 05:36, 6 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/R. Ames Montgomery; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]


Articles created/expanded on February 7

Oakwood Cemetery (Montgomery, Alabama)

Created by Drmies (talk) and Uncle G (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 23:26, 10 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Oakwood Cemetery (Montgomery, Alabama); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Elmwood Tower

Improved to Good Article status by Etriusus (talk). Self-nominated at 04:31, 8 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Elmwood Tower; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Comets in fiction

 
Halley's Comet

Improved to Good Article status by TompaDompa (talk). Self-nominated at 21:06, 7 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Comets in fiction; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

1934 German referendum

Improved to Good Article status by HouseBlaster (talk). Self-nominated at 00:18, 8 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/1934 German referendum; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  •   No QPQ required. Article is eligible. No copyvio, well sourced. Long enough. Hook is sourced and interesting, but I do find the wording "was doubled from the one a year prior" a bit awkward. Srnec (talk)

  The hook fact appears to be absent from main body text. Gatoclass (talk) 03:07, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article says Overall support for the government was lower than in the referendum of 12 November 1933, when the government had received support from 95.1% of the total electorate. It has the 1934 results. You can clearly see that opposition must have doubled, since it could not have been more than 4.9% in 1933. Srnec (talk) 03:41, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have added two alts with (hopefully) less awkward phrasing, and have explicitly added the information to the text. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 04:18, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, firstly, the hook fact must be in the article, not merely inferred. Readers should not be expected to do the math themselves. Apart from which - how would I know from those figures that "opposition ... doubled"? There might have been fewer overall voters the first time, or a much larger number of informal votes.
In any case, comparing the two referenda looks like an apples to oranges thing to me, as they were on very different subjects. So it seems a little misleading, if not WP:SYNTHish, to characterize the result as "opposition to Hitler" specifically. Gatoclass (talk) 04:24, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I'm good with HouseBlaster's additions and, on reflection, the source supports the hook, so let's not waste any more time on this one. Gatoclass (talk) 04:33, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For clarity, my preference would be for ALT2—does that work for you? HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:24, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, why not? Gatoclass (talk) 05:52, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   The way these hooks are worded wrongly suggest that the referendum results reflect actual opposition to Hitler, or at least the actual votes cast (when there was widespread fraud). I think it would be better to write something like, "that twice as many oppose votes were recorded ... ?" (t · c) buidhe 09:40, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Does ALT3 work for you? HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 15:50, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Judi Singh

Created by HistoryCanadiana (talk). Nominated by Mach61 (talk) at 16:04, 7 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Judi Singh; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  
  • Interesting:  
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Basic article that meets the criteria. Nice to see a thoughtful and thorough QPQ provided by a nominator for once! Gatoclass (talk) 02:50, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 I'm commenting because of the discussion at WT:DYK.

  1. The original hook is not accurate because her father was not an "Indian family" – he was a lone settler.
  2. The phrase "one of the first" is problematic because it's fuzzy or self-contradictory.
  3. The form of words used by this source is "daughter of the first Sikh Albertan and a pioneer Black settler" which seems to avoid the above issues.
Andrew🐉(talk) 20:03, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In reviewing the article and hook, it seems I did miss a few nuances, not only the two you pointed out, but also the fact that the sources refer to Singh as the first Sikh to settle in Alberta rather than the first Indian. So that probably needs fixing in the article. Mach61? Also, a revised hook will be required, might I suggest:
*ALT1: ... that jazz singer Judi Singh's mother and father were, respectively, among the earliest Black and Sikh settlers of Alberta, Canada? Gatoclass (talk) 08:51, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Not against alt1, but I'll try expanding the article with the sources I added on talk and finding a new hook with that. Mach61 (talk) 15:41, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Z1720: Just evaluate ALT1, I didn't have the time for this. Mach61 (talk) 02:38, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on February 8

Jumalan teatteri

Created by JIP (talk). Self-nominated at 11:24, 11 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Jumalan teatteri; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Canada All-Stars

Moved to mainspace by BeanieFan11 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:35, 9 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Canada All-Stars; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  •   I'm not sure about this hook. It seems rather technical or specialist, and a person who isn't familiar with gridiron football might not get what the interesting part here is supposed to be. Perhaps alternative hooks can be proposed? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:46, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Narutolovehinata5: That was the best hook that came to mind (as soon as I read about it I thought, "what the hell are tenders and half-tenders"? I think just the names themselves sound kind of interesting) - but maybe we could do something like ALT1: ... that a team of Canadian All-Stars twice played against the U.S. college football national champion and came within one point of winning each game? BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:29, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PHerc. Paris. 4

  • ... that it took a particle accelerator and machine-learning algorithms to extract the charred text of PHerc. Paris. 4 without unrolling it? Source: First passages of rolled-up Herculaneum scroll revealed [24]

Created by NeverBeGameOver (talk), Ifly6 (talk), and StarTrekker (talk). Nominated by NeverBeGameOver (talk) at 05:34, 9 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/PHerc. Paris. 4; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  • I would not use the first one related to Nat Friedman. It sounds too much like an endorsement or promotion thereof. The second, noting the discovery of a work by Philodemus, is reasonable and is sourced reliably (Nature). Ifly6 (talk) 05:55, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Beebo the God of War

Improved to Good Article status by OlifanofmrTennant (talk) and Kailash29792 (talk). Nominated by OlifanofmrTennant (talk) at 05:43, 8 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Beebo the God of War; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  • This isn't a review but a comment, but I would suggest dropping ALT1 per WP:DYKFICTION (a hook about a work of fiction has to be primarily about the real world), and also because it seems very specialist and may not appeal to non-fans. Personally I think ALT2 is the best hook among the three proposals but I will let the reviewer decide. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:15, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I feel as this isnt the case as it talks about the character being recast. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 06:19, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 9

Weird Faith

Created by Voorts (talk). Self-nominated at 01:38, 15 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Weird Faith; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Art of the Jewish people

  • ... that following the emancipation, there was a rise in Jews engaging with the arts leading to a cultural resurgence in Jewish culture and art in the Europe? Source: https://yivoencyclopedia.org/article.aspx/painting_and_sculpture
    • ALT1: ... that following the Russian revolution, Jews were emancipated and free to engage in the arts leading to a resurgence in Jewish art? Source: Rebecca Assoun, Jewish artists in Montparnasse Archived September 29, 2007, at the Wayback Machine. European Jewish Press, July 19, 2005. Accessed February 12, 2006.
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: Link to article can be in:" Jewish culture and art " and in ALT1 in "Jewish art"

Created by Homerethegreat (talk). Self-nominated at 10:42, 12 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Art of the Jewish people; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Ancient Jewish art

  • ... that ancient Jewish art in late antiquity is epitomized by the biblical themed murals of the Dura-Europos synagogue in Syria? Source: Rachel, Hachlili (1998). Ancient jewish art and archaeology in the diaspora. Brill. ISBN 978-9004108783. OCLC 470279305. https://search.worldcat.org/title/470279305
    • Reviewed:

Created by Homerethegreat (talk). Self-nominated at 19:22, 14 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ancient Jewish art; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:   - n
  • Interesting:  
QPQ: None required.

Overall:   QPQ not needed. The article contains significant uncited material, and the hook fact is not itself cited in the article. These issues need to be resolved Homerethegreat. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:02, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Homerethegreat: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 02:35, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've added the sentence in a clear manner as requested. Apologies for the late response. Homerethegreat (talk) 21:05, 2 March 2024 (UTC) Regarding sourcing, is this alright: https://smarthistory.org/synagogue-dura-europos/ ? Thank you for your time. Homerethegreat (talk) 21:09, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eretnid dynasty

 
Silver dirham minted in the name of Eretna in 1351 in Erzincan. It includes an inscription in the Uyghur script that reads sultan adil.

Improved to Good Article status by Aintabli (talk). Self-nominated at 19:07, 10 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Eretnid dynasty; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Battle of Carrizo

Created by Lbal (talk). Self-nominated at 18:40, 10 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Battle of Carrizo; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

2024 Netball Nations Cup

Created by Djln19 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:06, 10 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/2024 Netball Nations Cup; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  • Hello, @Djln19: The first things I've noticed is that the article is not long enough for DYK. But this is easily fixed by converting the list under "Debuts and milestones" into prose form. I will begin my full review shortly. ~~lol1VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me) 17:15, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Sources should be given for the match officials' associations. In addition to prosifying the milestones as above, basic organizational information should be summarized in the lead, such as The group stage consists of three rounds, the first two of which were held 20-21 Jan in OVO, London; and the third one, playoffs, and grand final were held 27-28 Jan in the First Direct Arena, Leeds. In the hook, "for New Zealand in the same team" sounds a little redundant, would it be possible to cut it down to
    ALT1: ... that at the 2024 Netball Nations Cup, Georgia and Kate Heffernan became the first sisters to play for New Zealand at the same time?
  • Article: new enough, neutral, BLP-compliant, copyvio-free according to Earwig, complete and presentable; Hook: cited, interesting, QPQ not required. Best wishes, ~~lol1VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me) 20:21, 16 February 2024 (UTC); edited 16:06, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks @Lol1VNIO: for your feedback. I'm not sure the article can be expanded any further. I could not find any other references for the match officials other than one included. Plus, I don't think we need a long winded explanation on how group stages work. They are widely used in numerous sports, they don't really need explaining. Possibly could add more about the venues. Your version of the hook is ok with me. Djln Djln19 (talk) 20:17, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

May O'Flaherty

Created by Bogger (talk). Self-nominated at 14:25, 10 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/May O'Flaherty; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]


Articles created/expanded on February 11

Gary Bossert

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 20:31, 14 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Gary Bossert; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  • I was suppose to nominate this by the 12th I think, but I got distracted and forgot to. If it is too late, I can nom at GAN and come back later.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:33, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I created the page in my sandbox on 2/5, but I did not move it to main space until 2/11. So this in time. I am going to move it to the Feb 11 section.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:31, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   The hook as currently written is a bit complicated and hard to read. My suggestion would be to split the hook into two separate hooks (one for the three-point shots, the other for the free throws). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:34, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Does this mean that you feel the opening paragraph of the article is confusing too (since it presents the fact essentially the same way)?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:57, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The issue here is the hook, not the article, so how it is presented in the article is irrelevant to my specific concern. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:53, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:Narutolovehinata5, I am just trying to understand why it is so confusing. It is almost the exact same text as the WP:LEAD opening paragraph. Is that some sort of wild mess or something. Is it not possible to say two things in a hook if they make sense. The scale of his uniqueness is not well represented by either single point.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:49, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TonyTheTiger: Think of a hook as a run-on sentence. It's trying to say two things at once without break, and the flow of how that is presented can be tiring. A regular reader who reads the hook may feel tired from reading it all at once. This isn't about how impressive his work is, it's about the interest of the reader. This is why I was suggesting splitting it into two separate hooks; personally, I think either by itself is impressive enough, but it's also more "bite-sized" that would be more likely to keep a reader's attention than something more winded. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:56, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I also just realized that the hook is 201 characters and thus cannot be used. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:54, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well the limit is 200 right?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:52, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 * ... that Gary Bossert has made the most single-game consecutive three-point shots and second most single-game free throws without a miss?
The limit is indeed 200, but the new hook not only doesn't address my original concern, but also introduces an error because it now lacks the "NCAA Division I" qualifier, making the hook appear to be a general hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:52, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One could make the argument that removal of the qualifiers adds intrigue and makes the hook less cluttered and confusing.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:23, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It would also make the hook inaccurate and even a factual error, so as written ALT1 would also not pass either a trip to WP:ERRORS or a sanity check at WT:DYK. I'm not sure what's so difficult about splitting the hook into two separate hooks as that would essentially solve the main issues with the hook regarding both accuracy and ease-of-reading. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:01, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2 * ... that Gary Bossert is in record books for consecutive three-point shots and free throws without a miss?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:58, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That hook doesn't address the accuracy issue either because it seems to vague about the "record books" in question. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:28, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please clarify what is inaccurate. He is in at least 4 record books (3 linked as refs — NCAA, America East, and Niagara — and a fourth in the prose — High School) for these two activities. For brevity I just say record books than name all 4.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:48, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's the same issue as the above. The record books in question are not specified, so it is unclear what those records are in the hook (they're NCAA records, but at first glance they're too vague to have any meaning). It might be easier to just go with my earlier suggestion of split hooks; I cannot understand why there is an apparent insistence of including both despite the issues. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:25, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TonyTheTiger: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 02:35, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • The last point was that something was too vague. Above I stated that he is in 4 record books. A less vage ALT would be to name 2 of them, but that makes it confusing and reduces the intrigue if you ask me.
ALT4 * ... that Gary Bossert is the NCAA record book for consecutive three-point shots and the National High School record book for free throws without a miss?
ALT5 * ... that Gary Bossert has made 11 consecutive single-game three-point shots and 26 single-game free throws without a miss?
ALT5 * ... that Gary Bossert has made 11 consecutive three-point shots and at least 31 consecutive free throws?

2023–24 College Football Playoff

5x expanded by PCN02WPS (talk). Self-nominated at 23:41, 12 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/2023–24 College Football Playoff; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  
  • Interesting:  
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Everything looks good, but there is a merge discussion still active. It would probably be best to wait until that is closed before this is approved. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:44, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • @PCN02WPS: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 02:37, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Z1720 and BeanieFan11: I pinged the creator of the merge discussion and another user who voted to merge when I completed the rewrite earlier this month. My pings aren't getting responses so I'm not quite sure how to proceed at this time with the discussion. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 02:41, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on February 12

Matt Rempe

Created by Rlendog (talk). Self-nominated at 22:11, 18 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Matt Rempe; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Modi'in (ancient city)

 
A Jewish burial cave found at Khirbet Midiyeh, one of the proposed sites for the ancient city of Modi'in
  • ... that ancient Modi'in was home to a monumental mausoleum of the Hasmonean family, built in the 2nd century BC by Simon Thassi, the brother of Judas Maccabeus, but it remains undiscovered to this day? Source: Zissu, Boaz; Perry, Lior (2015). "Hasmonean Modi'in and Byzantine Moditha: A topographical-historical and archaeological assessment". Palestine Exploration Quarterly. 147 (4): 316–337. doi:10.1179/0031032815Z.000000000137. ISSN 0031-0328
    • ALT1: ... that Modi'in, an ancient Jewish city mentioned in the Books of the Maccabees, was the hometown of the Hasmonean family, who led the successful Maccabean Revolt? Source: Zissu, Boaz; Perry, Lior (2015). "Hasmonean Modi'in and Byzantine Moditha: A topographical-historical and archaeological assessment". Palestine Exploration Quarterly. 147 (4): 316–337. doi:10.1179/0031032815Z.000000000137. ISSN 0031-0328
    • ALT2: ... that the exact location of ancient Jewish city of Modi'in, hometown of the Maccabees, remains debated among scholars, with several proposed sites all located near modern Modi'in-Maccabim-Re'ut? Source: Zissu, Boaz; Perry, Lior (2015). "Hasmonean Modi'in and Byzantine Moditha: A topographical-historical and archaeological assessment". Palestine Exploration Quarterly. 147 (4): 316–337. doi:10.1179/0031032815Z.000000000137. ISSN 0031-0328
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: No comment

Created by Mariamnei (talk). Self-nominated at 13:48, 18 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Modi'in (ancient city); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Shelton Tappes

  • ... that Shelton Tappes compared his work on discrimination claims for the UAW to a fire station, saying "when the bell rings, we run to put out the fire"? Source: Korstad, Robert; Lichtenstein, Nelson (1988) doi:10.2307/1901530 " 'We are a fire station' admitted Tappes, who served in the department during the 1950s and 1960s, 'and when the bell rings we run to put out the fire.'
    • ALT1: ... that the UAW's 1941 union contract with the Ford Motor Company included a then-unique antidiscrimination clause negotiated by Black foundryman Shelton Tappes? Source: Lichtenstein, Nelson (2013). A Contest of Ideas: Capital, Politics, and Labor p 116 "Foundryman Shelton Tappes.. helped negotiate a then unique antidiscrimination clause into the first UAW-Ford contract. Bates,2012, p. 255 "the antidiscrimination clause, was the handiwork of Shelton Tappes"
    • Reviewed: Template:Did_you_know_nominations/John_Williams_Reynolds
    • Comment: I am working on reviewing my QPQ

Created by HouseOfChange (talk). Self-nominated at 05:16, 18 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Shelton Tappes; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Laufey (singer)

Improved to Good Article status by Arconning (talk). Nominated by MaranoFan (talk) at 17:18, 15 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Laufey (singer); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Texas Hold 'Em (song), 16 Carriages

Created by ModulationBend (talk). Nominated by MaranoFan (talk) at 08:21, 15 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Texas Hold 'Em (song); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  • Just wanted to clock in and say that I am in the process of fixing the issues, just keeping a bit busier than usual. Greets.--NØ 19:06, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 13

Marcelino Gutiérrez

Created by AlejandroFC (talk) and 2x2leax (talk). Nominated by 2x2leax (talk) at 22:03, 20 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Marcelino Gutiérrez; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Rosenheim Mansion

 
Rosenheim Mansion

Created by DarkNight0917 (talk). Self-nominated at 05:40, 20 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Rosenheim Mansion; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing:   - I am not convinced that Roadtrippers is a reliable source (and could find no mention of it at WP:RSP). No sources for its information are cited, and I worry that it might be pulling from unreliable sources like Atlas Obscura or even the AHS Wiki (which is also poorly sourced). It seems more like a directory like TripAdvisor, maybe posted by a staff writer, maybe user-generated. That combined with the numerous grammar/spelling errors do not instill confidence. I think it's best if we replace it and find better sources for that information. I'm particularly concerned with the bit about A.J. McQuatters; the claim that he was gay seems like pure speculation. I think a lot of this can be solved with a trip to archives like Newspapers.com; in fact, I already found mention of the sale to McQuatters, which I've clipped here and here for you. One thing to keep an eye on is the word count; if we are to just blanket remove everything only cited by Roadtrippers, the article might not meet 1500 prose characters, but there's still plenty of room to expand this article. There should be an official source out there supporting its historic listing (maybe here?).
Smaller thing: Gothic architecture is cited in the infobox but not inline.
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  
  • Interesting:  
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall:   QPQ N/A, Earwig 8.4%. Image license checked and cleared for commercial reuse and alteration. The image caption should be descriptive of the article, e.g. "Rosenheim Mansion". The hook source included here doesn't support the phrasing that the owners sued for the non-disclosure, but the other two inline citations support it.

The Tudor/Gothic architecture wikilinks should go to Tudor Revival architecture and Gothic Revival architecture, respectively, as the current wikilinks go to Tudor architecture and Gothic architecture. Although these styles are not explicitly stated in sources to be Revival, because the original styles were confined to late medieval Europe, their presence in the US implies this.

Overall, the sourcing issue needs to be resolved (while ensuring character count is still met), a couple of other tweaks made, and once that's done, we can proceed. TCMemoire 23:38, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have addressed all the issues. - DarkNight0917 | (t/c) 01:00, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@DarkNight0917: The phrases (lived there) in the early 1930s, After the mansion was damaged in the 1994 Northridge earthquake, the nuns sold it for $3 million, and The stair hall is bowed and turreted are still not supported by the inline sources you've added. They either need to be sourced or removed.
One other quick thing I've fixed for you: per Wikipedia:Newspapers.com, when we cite Newspapers.com, we should add the via=[[Newspapers.com]] parameter to the cite template, as it's a database. This is especially important if accessing from Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library (I clipped from my personal account, but worth mentioning). TCMemoire 11:05, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My bad. I've removed two of the three statements you've listed above and added a source for the other. - DarkNight0917 | (t/c) 03:53, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ladislav Burlas

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 22:59, 19 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ladislav Burlas; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]


Articles created/expanded on February 14

Çöpler mine disaster

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 10:27, 19 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Çöpler mine disaster; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Aisling (book series)

Created by Bogger (talk). Self-nominated at 12:48, 18 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Aisling (book series); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Adrian Ward-Jackson

Created by No Swan So Fine (talk). Self-nominated at 23:36, 16 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Adrian Ward-Jackson; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Hypericum sect. Androsaemum, Aniculus aniculus

Created by Fritzmann2002 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:45, 14 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Hypericum sect. Androsaemum; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  • Comment: I'm afraid this hook just won't work. It plays with technical knowledge on too many levels, and is utterly confusing to the general reader even after they've read both articles. I had to spend a minute or so to figure out that it's playing on differences in botanic and zoologic nomenclature rules, where tautonyms are acceptable in the latter but not the former. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:15, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Paul 012: what about a simplified ALT1: ... that double names are allowed for animals like Aniculus aniculus, but "forbidden" for plants like Androsaemum androsaemum? Fritzmann (message me) 20:56, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • That does make it more understandable to DYK readers, but it still needs to be better explained in the articles. The Androsaemum article, for example, only says, "A publication on botanical tautonyms by Ernst Huth in 1893 rejected the name Hypericum androsaemum, which meant that the new and invalid name Androsaemum androsaemum would take priority," which isn't nearly enough context. Why was it rejected? Why was it invalid? Why was this possible? What happened next? The sources also barely mention these specific examples (not at all in the case of Aniculus, as the source is just touching on the concept). While it's simple logic and I wouldn't regard it as violating WP:SYNTH, I don't think it's acceptable under DYK's rules. --Paul_012 (talk) 21:17, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Thanks Paul for the comments, they're very helpful. I would appreciate a second opinion, preferably as part of a full review, so I'm able to assess whether the required changes are fully necessary and if so, if they are feasible or if I should drop the hooks. Fritzmann (message me) 23:58, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Prince Karl Aloys of Liechtenstein

 
Prince Karl Aloys
  • ... that in 1920 Prince Karl Aloys (pictured) presented a draft for a new constitution of Liechtenstein, but it was rejected? Source: "Ein von Karl im April 1920 vorgelegter Verfassungsentwurf, der sich eng an die monarchistische Staatsauffassung von 1862 anlehnte, spielte in den weiteren Verhandlungen keine Rolle." https://historisches-lexikon.li/Liechtenstein,_Karl_von_(1878–1955)
    The source doesn't exactly say that it was outright rejected, but "played no role in further negotiations" strongly implies that. Given that the draft presented by Wilhelm Beck and Josef Peer later presented was accepted instead, the hook holds true.
    Here is the source of the latter just to verify: "1920 veröffentlichte Beck in den ON einen Verfassungsentwurf für eine konstitutionelle Monarchie auf demokratisch und parlamentarischer Grundlage mit Verankerung der Staatsgewalt in Fürst und Volk, Verantwortlichkeit der Regierung gegenüber dem Landtag und dem Recht auf Initiative und Referendum auf Gesetzes- und Verfassungsebene. Im September 1920 konnte Beck seine Vorstellungen in Verhandlungen auf Schloss Vaduz weitgehend durchsetzen. Die daraus resultierenden Schlossabmachungen vom 20.9.1920 und ein von Regierungschef Josef Peer als Regierungsvorlage präsentierter Verfassungsentwurf bildeten die Grundlage der neuen Verfassung vom 5.10.1921." https://historisches-lexikon.li/Beck,_Wilhelm
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: Image is optional.

5x expanded by TheBritinator (talk). Self-nominated at 17:14, 14 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Prince Karl Aloys of Liechtenstein; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Jaroslav Záruba

Created by Chetsford (talk). Self-nominated at 06:38, 14 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Jaroslav Záruba; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]


Articles created/expanded on February 15

Xebec Corporation

Created by DigitalIceAge (talk). Self-nominated at 09:15, 21 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Xebec Corporation; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Akshayapureeswarar Temple

 
Temple entrance

Created by Redtigerxyz (talk). Self-nominated at 04:09, 19 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Akshayapureeswarar Temple; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Biodiversity Impact Credit

  • ... that species extinctions can be stopped by buying Biodiversity Impact Credits? Source: In Biodiversity Impact Credits: Biodiversity Impact Credit (BIC) is a transferable biodiversity credit designed to reduce global species extinction risk.
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: Am a novice, please advise if I got this wrong.

Created by Pinkchiken (talk). Self-nominated at 11:03, 15 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Biodiversity Impact Credit; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 16

Mikolo (film)

  • ... that after 6 years and more than 4,700 films for older audiences, Nollywood released a children's film, Mikolo, in 2023?
    Source: Medium: Titiloye, Ladipo (24 August 2023). "Why Niyi Akinmolayan's Mikolo is Nigeria's Most Important Film of the Year". "from the 2nd quarter of 2017 to the 1st quarter of 2021, Nigeria produced 4,730 movies and none were for children. Two years after 2021, there were still no Nigerian films for children."
    • ALT1: ... that a critic called family film Mikolo the most important Nigerian film of 2023, after Nollywood released no child-friendly films over 6 years?
      Source: Medium: Titiloye, Ladipo (24 August 2023). "Why Niyi Akinmolayan's Mikolo is Nigeria's Most Important Film of the Year". - quotes:
      (Re. "most important"): "Nollywood has something for the kids, and that’s why it is the most important film of the year. With this film, we can look forward to a new beginning where Nigerian stories are not for adults alone or stuck in PG16."
      (Re. volume:) "from the 2nd quarter of 2017 to the 1st quarter of 2021, Nigeria produced 4,730 movies and none were for children. Two years after 2021, there were still no Nigerian films for children."
    • ALT1a: ... that a critic called family film Mikolo the most important Nigerian film of 2023, after Nollywood released no child-friendly films over 6 years in which thousands of films were produced?
      Source: Medium: Titiloye, Ladipo (24 August 2023). "Why Niyi Akinmolayan's Mikolo is Nigeria's Most Important Film of the Year". - quotes:
      (Re. "most important"): "Nollywood has something for the kids, and that’s why it is the most important film of the year. With this film, we can look forward to a new beginning where Nigerian stories are not for adults alone or stuck in PG16."
      (Re. volume:) "from the 2nd quarter of 2017 to the 1st quarter of 2021, Nigeria produced 4,730 movies and none were for children. Two years after 2021, there were still no Nigerian films for children."
    • Reviewed: Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Matt_Stoller
    • Comment: Created on the 16th, and today's the 23rd, so meets (just) the timing requirement, and for strict measure of hours, I trust we can flex for this case - it will introduce some readers to not just an article on an interesting hybrid format film but also to a massive (but little-known-in-the-North) film source, Nollywood, the 2nd biggest in the world by number of productions - and the film itself is one of a very small number from vast Africa on the global streaming platforms.

Created by SeoR (talk). Self-nominated at 19:52, 23 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mikolo (film); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Andrew Dakich

 
Dakich dribbling

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 00:42, 21 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Andrew Dakich; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Lapse (social network)

Created by I'm tla (talk). Self-nominated at 08:36, 16 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lapse (social network); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  •   Article length borders on the weak side and, more importantly, the hook fact is actually missing from the article itself. Shouldn't be a long way away from being good to go though! Cheers, KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 16:56, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @I'm tla: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 02:41, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Kingoflettuce: I've added the hook paraphrased in the 2023 re-release section. I'm still doing research on thinking about expansion, but made sure the lede meets requirements. TLAtlak 07:06, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ultimate Team

  • ... that Ultimate Team is a video game mode most popular among young people, but is also regularly criticized as a form of gambling?

Moved to mainspace by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 00:09, 16 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ultimate Team; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 17

John Blackinger

  • ... that John Blackinger quit his job as the general manager of a professional football team to work in the dairy business? Source: Redwood City Tribune
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/pending

Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:43, 21 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/John Blackinger; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Petik and Sanos

  • ... that influential Armenian merchants Petik and Sanos expanded the Armenian church, which was illegal to do in Ottoman Muslim Aleppo? Source: 1. Semerdjian, Elyse (2019). "Armenians in the Production of Urban Space in Early Modern Judayda", pp. 52-54:
    "In 1616 and 1639, the prayer space was expanded to accommodate more worshippers at the time the Julfan population was at its height. The expansion of the Forty Martyrs church was no small feat; new construction of Christian space contravened Ottoman building regulations, yet expanding and renovating Armenian space was orchestrated by Armenians who exerted exceptional influence in this period." (and further Bedik and Sanos are described).
    2. Masters, Bruce. Christians and Jews in the Ottoman Arab World: The Roots of Sectarianism (2004), p. 72:
    "In gratitude, the Armenian merchants financed the construction of the Church of the Forty Martyrs (Surp Karsunk) in 1616 to house their catholicos. The construction of new churches was, of course, a violation of the Pact of Umar and we have a hint that it cost the Armenians dearly to build their cathedral." (Masters cites Sanjian, who writes in that place about Petik and Sanos)
    • Reviewed:

Created by Smpad (talk). Self-nominated at 17:36, 20 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Petik and Sanos; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Hubertus, Hereditary Prince of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha

Created by Therealscorp1an (talk). Self-nominated at 22:43, 17 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Hubertus, Hereditary Prince of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Imtiaz Qureshi

Created by Ktin (talk). Self-nominated at 08:30, 17 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Imtiaz Qureshi; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  •   The article meets DYK requirements for newness and length. I didn't detect any close paraphrasing, and any quotes have been appropriately cited. The preference for ALT0 is noted, but personally ALT1 is probably the more interesting hook here given it's slightly less specialist and more eyecatchy; however, I would suggest modifying the hook to clarify that Bukhara is a restaurant brand, and that it's in Fahrenheit for the benefit of non-American/Liberian readers, perhaps with a Celsius conversion. I understand the quote used Fahrenheit, but the hook is not a direct quote anyway. A QPQ is still needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:30, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Added QPQ. I feel 104-degree fever should be alright. Adding Fahrenheit will only make it verbose. Similarly with restaurant. Bukhara is wikilinked. Ktin (talk) 02:17, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ktin: We are writing for an international audience, and most of the world doesn't use Fahrenheit, including India. Readers outside the US and a handful of other countries who see the hook will just be confused. If there's a concern it will be verbose, just add the symbol, no need to include the full word (same with the Celsius conversion). The wikilink helps but may not be enough. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:36, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: I would agree with the need for units and conversions almost always. But, with a statement like 104-degree fever, it is hard to not think fahrenheit. Also, I do not agree with the assertion that India does not use Fahrenheit (specifically, for medical purposes). However, given our impasse, let's do this. I will write out both variants of the hooks. Let the promoting admin / editor take a call.
ALT0 ... that according to Indian chef Imtiaz Qureshi, who is credited with reviving the dum pukht cooking tradition, all biryanis are pulaos?
ALT1.1: ... that Indian chef Imtiaz Qureshi created the menu for the Bukhara overnight battling a 104-degree fever?
ALT1.2: ... that Indian chef Imtiaz Qureshi created the menu for the Bukhara restaurant overnight battling a 104-degree fahrenheit fever?
My first preference is for ALT0, and the second preference is ALT1.1. However, let the promoting admin take a call. ALT0 is actually the most interesting of these hooks. For contextualizing -- this is equivalent to the founder of the McDonalds burger saying that a burger is actually a sandwich. Ktin (talk) 04:19, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ktin: I think the issue here is that if a person isn't familiar with what biryanis are, they might not get the hook. Sure they're quite popular around the world, but we are aiming for the broadest audience, not the smallest one, and in my opinion, the fever angle is the one that's more easily understandable or self-evident. If there's a concern that using the full word "Fahrenheit" would make the hook more verbose, the symbol could probably be used, with it being left to the promoter if a conversion is necessary. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:24, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: It is fine for us to disagree. Let the promoting admin take a call. I am striking out the older hooks. My preference continues to remain the same. But, will defer to the promoting admin. Ktin (talk) 04:27, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: Please let know if we need a different reviewer for this nomination. Ktin (talk) 23:29, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My preference would be to approve only ALT0 and ALT1.2 (albeit with that hook using a symbol instead), and if ALT1.2 were to be used, I'd leave it to the promoter whether or not to include a conversion (since the WT:DYK discussion had mixed opinions). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:19, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Disagree and commit. I disagree that ALT1.2 does anything better to the hook than ALT1.1. I also disagree that the WT:DYK discussion had mixed opinions. It was clear as clear can be. I also, respectfully, think that the reviewer is holding on to the stick more than they should (see WP:DROPTHESTICK). That said, in the interest of moving on, I will commit to moving forward with an approval of ALT0 and ALT1.2, with the promoting admin / editor having a free reign to pick either of the hooks. Let's go build an encyclopedia. Ktin (talk) 04:18, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thambi Naidoo

 
Thambi Naidoo

Created by Ktin (talk). Self-nominated at 05:14, 17 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Thambi Naidoo; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

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